diff --git a/youtube_dl/extractor/__init__.py b/youtube_dl/extractor/__init__.py
index 5d2ea39d0..84830c885 100644
--- a/youtube_dl/extractor/__init__.py
+++ b/youtube_dl/extractor/__init__.py
@@ -368,6 +368,8 @@ from .nbc import (
 from .ndr import (
     NDRIE,
     NJoyIE,
+    NDREmbedIE,
+    NJoyEmbedIE,
 )
 from .ndtv import NDTVIE
 from .netzkino import NetzkinoIE
diff --git a/youtube_dl/extractor/ndr.py b/youtube_dl/extractor/ndr.py
index 77b7e5eb8..aca85825d 100644
--- a/youtube_dl/extractor/ndr.py
+++ b/youtube_dl/extractor/ndr.py
@@ -12,21 +12,18 @@ preferences = {'xl': 4, 'l': 3, 'm': 2, 's': 1, 'xs': 0,}
 
 
 class NDRBaseIE(InfoExtractor):
-    def _real_extract(self, url):
-        video_id = self._match_id(url)
-
-        json_data = self._download_json('http://www.ndr.de/%s-ppjson.json' % video_id, video_id, 'Downloading page')
 
+    def extract_video_info(self, playlist, video_id):
         formats = []
-        objetType = json_data.get('config').get('objectType')
-        if objetType == 'video':
-            for key, f in json_data.get('playlist').items():
+        streamType = playlist.get('config').get('streamType')
+        if streamType == 'httpVideo':
+            for key, f in playlist.items():
                 if key != 'config':
                     src = f['src']
                     if '.f4m' in src:
                         formats.extend(self._extract_f4m_formats(src, video_id))
                     elif '.m3u8' in src:
-                        formats.extend(self._extract_m3u8_formats(src, video_id))
+                        formats.extend(self._extract_m3u8_formats(src, video_id, fatal=False))
                     else:
                         quality = f.get('quality')
                         formats.append({
@@ -34,20 +31,20 @@ class NDRBaseIE(InfoExtractor):
                             'format_id': quality,
                             'preference': preferences.get(quality),
                         })
-        elif objetType == 'audio':
-            for key, f in json_data.get('playlist').items():
+        elif streamType == 'httpAudio':
+            for key, f in playlist.items():
                 if key != 'config':
                     formats.append({
                         'url': f['src'],
                         'format_id': 'mp3',
-                        
+                        'vcodec': 'none',
                     })
         else:
             raise ExtractorError('No media links available for %s' % video_id)
 
         self._sort_formats(formats)
 
-        config = json_data.get('playlist').get('config')
+        config = playlist.get('config')
 
         title = config['title']
         duration = int_or_none(config.get('duration'))
@@ -65,6 +62,25 @@ class NDRBaseIE(InfoExtractor):
             'formats': formats,
         }
 
+    def _real_extract(self, url):
+        video_id = self._match_id(url)
+
+        json_data = self._download_json('http://www.ndr.de/%s-ppjson.json' % video_id, video_id, fatal=False)
+
+        if not json_data:
+            webpage = self._download_webpage(url, video_id)
+            embed_url = self._html_search_regex(r'<iframe[^>]+id="pp_\w+"[^>]+src="(/.*)"', webpage, 'embed url', None, False)
+            if not embed_url:
+                embed_url = self._html_search_meta('embedURL', webpage, fatal=False)
+            if embed_url:
+                if embed_url.startswith('/'):
+                    return self.url_result('http://www.ndr.de%s' % embed_url, 'NDREmbed')
+                else:
+                    return self.url_result(embed_url, 'NDREmbed')
+            raise ExtractorError('No media links available for %s' % video_id)
+
+        return self.extract_video_info(json_data['playlist'], video_id)
+
 
 class NDRIE(NDRBaseIE):
     IE_NAME = 'ndr'
@@ -116,9 +132,51 @@ class NJoyIE(NDRBaseIE):
         'url': 'http://www.n-joy.de/entertainment/comedy/comedy_contest/Benaissa-beim-NDR-Comedy-Contest,comedycontest2480.html',
         'md5': 'cb63be60cd6f9dd75218803146d8dc67',
         'info_dict': {
-            'id': '2480',
+            'id': 'comedycontest2480',
             'ext': 'mp4',
             'title': 'Benaissa beim NDR Comedy Contest',
             'duration': 654,
         }
     }
+
+
+class NDREmbedBaseIE(NDRBaseIE):
+
+    def _real_extract(self, url):
+        video_id = self._match_id(url)
+        json_data = self._download_json('http://www.ndr.de/%s-ppjson.json' % video_id, video_id, fatal=False)
+        if not json_data:
+            raise ExtractorError('No media links available for %s' % video_id)
+        return self.extract_video_info(json_data['playlist'], video_id)
+
+
+class NDREmbedIE(NDREmbedBaseIE):
+    IE_NAME = 'ndr:embed'
+    _VALID_URL = r'https?://www\.ndr\.de/(?:[^/]+/)+(?P<id>\w+)'
+
+    _TEST = {
+        'url': 'http://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/ndr_aktuell/ndraktuell28488-player.html',
+        'md5': 'cb63be60cd6f9dd75218803146d8dc67',
+        'info_dict': {
+            'id': 'ndraktuell28488',
+            'ext': 'mp4',
+            'title': 'Norddeutschland begrüßt Flüchtlinge',
+            'duration': 132,
+        }
+    }
+
+
+class NJoyEmbedIE(NDREmbedBaseIE):
+    IE_NAME = 'N-JOY:embed'
+    _VALID_URL = r'https?://www\.n-joy\.de/(?:[^/]+/)(?P<id>\w+)'
+
+    _TEST = {
+        'url': 'http://www.n-joy.de/entertainment/film/portraet374-player_image-832d9b79-fa8a-4026-92e2-e0fd99deb2f9_theme-n-joy.html',
+        'md5': 'cb63be60cd6f9dd75218803146d8dc67',
+        'info_dict': {
+            'id': 'portraet374',
+            'ext': 'mp4',
+            'title': 'Viviane Andereggen - "Schuld um Schuld"',
+            'duration': 129,
+        }
+    }